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Now that 5 of the 9 Phoenix City Councilmen have succeeded in preventing the Satanist from saying an pray at the Phoenix City Council meeting, I suspect the jerks will restore pray to the Phoenix City Council meetings because they can be assured it will only be Christian prayers.
Phoenix City Councilman Jim Waring seems like a real *sshole who is willing to use his power of a government official to destroy religions he doesn't like. 'I voted no and hated to see the "satanist" goal of ending prayer achieved.'Phoenix City Councilman Bill Gates seems like another on of of these *shole who want to discriminate against religions he doesn't like. Now that the Satanist have been booted from the Phoenix City Council meeting he wants to return to flushing the Constitution down the toilet and allowing prayer at Phoenix City Council meetings. Well, Christian prayers "The City Council should return to its long-held tradition of beginning its meetings with an invocation"Phoenix City Councilman Sal DiCiccio is another *sshole who seems to support mixing religion and government. Well in the case of police state thug Sal DiCiccio, he seems to want to mixing the government, police and religion. "Use a chaplain from the Phoenix Police, Fire or another current city employee, 2) Use chaplains that are on-call for police and fire emergencies"One good question for *sshole Phoenix City Councilman Sal DiCiccio is why the f*cl are our Phoenix tax dollars paying for CHAPLINS????
Do Phoenix leaders want to rethink prayer vote? Dustin Gardiner, The Republic | azcentral.com 12:12 p.m. MST February 25, 2016 We asked: Should Phoenix reconsider the decision to replace the opening invocation at City Council meeting’s with a moment of silent prayer? Please explain. Background: City leaders recently voted 5-4 to replace the spoken invocation at formal council meetings with a moment of silence, ending a prayer tradition of at least 65 years. The council’s move prevented a group of Satanists from giving the invocation at a Feb. 17 meeting. But the vote continues to stir protests from some council members, religious leaders and residents. Several efforts are being made to restore a spoken prayer. Two residents have submitted a petition calling for the council to reinstate it. Councilmen Sal DiCiccio, Jim Waring and Michael Nowakowski have also asked the council to consider referring the issue to city voters with a special election. Lastly, the chairman of the Arizona Republican Party has vowed to challenge the issue through a ballot initiative and recall the mayor and council members who supported it. Here are the answers of city leaders who responded to the question: "The council voted to end our 65-year tradition of prayer based upon legal advice that has been, at best, inconsistent. I voted no and hated to see the "satanist" goal of ending prayer achieved. Some believe that prayer at government meetings is unconstitutional. That is false. Congress, the state Legislature, and other governmental organizations have prayer. Opinions are unclear in the current matter, and more discussion should be had and differing legal opinions should be heard. If the council can't come up with a plan, I would like to see citizens have an opportunity to weigh in on this matter." — Jim Waring, District 2, northeast Phoenix "The City Council should return to its long-held tradition of beginning its meetings with an invocation. The U.S. Supreme Court recently reaffirmed the proposition that government bodies such as city councils may begin their regular meetings with an invocation. I propose that the city invite all faith leaders who are residents of Phoenix, or lead established congregations within our city, to deliver the invocation." — Bill Gates, District 3, Sunnyslope, Moon Valley and parts of northeast Phoenix "Prayer lends gravity to our roles as public servants and reminds us to rise above our differences to achieve a peaceful and functional society. This is not something that should be minimized or silenced. The history of legislative prayer dates back to the Framers of the Constitution, both houses of Congress have opened with prayer since 1789 and evidence of opening prayer or invocations have been a tradition in our state since the 1930’s. It is part of our heritage and it does not violate the Establishment Clause as long as no religion is advanced or disparaged, and residents aren’t coerced." — Michael Nowakowski, District 7, southwest Phoenix and parts of downtown Yes. City Attorney Brad Holm botched the proposal to keep prayer by developing a policy and then declaring his own proposal unconstitutional in the council meeting. This caused the council to end a 65-year tradition without any public notice. There are three approaches to restoring prayer: 1) Use a chaplain from the Phoenix Police, Fire or another current city employee, 2) Use chaplains that are on-call for police and fire emergencies, 3) Use following requirements to qualify citizen clergy: A. Phoenix resident, B. They are an established entity in the city, C. They show vesting in our community." — Sal DiCiccio, District 6,Ahwatukee and east Phoenix Got a question we should ask the mayor and City Council? Send it to me at dustin.gardiner@arizonarepublic.com or via Twitter @dustingardiner.
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