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Some posts from Sunday, March 26, 2017 by the Safer Arizona folks https://www.facebook.com/michelle.sheffield.790/posts/619406831593067?comment_id=619407081593042&reply_comment_id=619407571592993&ref=notif¬if_t=mentions_reply¬if_id=1490549297598355 Michelle Mushee Westenfield · 13 mins · Spotify · I'm tired of playing all your foolish games I'm tired of all of your lies making me insane I don't ask for much, the truth'll do just fine won't' you lay it on the line Lay it on the line Lay it on the line Don't waste my time Lay it on the line Lay It On The Line Triumph · Greatest Hits Remixed Plays from Spotify -0:30 Like CommentShare Comments Michelle Mushee Westenfield Michelle Mushee Westenfield Mickey Jones I never thought you could be so unkind Won't you lay it on the line Lay it on the line Lay it on the line Don't waste my time Lay it on the line Like · Reply · 11 mins · Edited Michelle Mushee Westenfield Michelle Mushee Westenfield You know I love you, you know it's true It's up to you, girl, what've I got to do Don't hold me up, girl, don't waste my precious time Won't you lay it on the line Lay it on the line Lay it on the line Don't waste my time Lay it on the line Like · Reply · 10 mins Michelle Mushee Westenfield Michelle Mushee Westenfield 💔😢💔 Like · Reply · 10 mins https://www.facebook.com/aname.abetter/posts/697677137059980?comment_id=698265807001113&reply_comment_id=698273017000392¬if_t=feed_comment¬if_id=1490548799626973 Mickey Jones · 23 hrs · I'm not sure if I'm being accused of stealing the Safer Arizona initiative and re-filing it as the RAD initiatives??? Sorry, but if I am being accused of stealing the stuff from Safer Arizona, that's not true. I wrote a lot of the Safer Arizona 2018 initiative to legalize marijuana in Arizona. And a lot of the Safer Arizona 2018 initiative came from the RAD 2016 initiative which I wrote 100% of. We used the RAD initiative, the Jack Herer initiative and the MPP initiative as a base when we wrote the original Safer Arizona 2018 initiative. And of course that was before it got watered down by Tom Dean. When we initially wrote it, it completely legalize marijuana, with the exception of an age limit of 18 years, and a simple sales tax on marijuana sales that couldn't be greater than the sales tax on food. Deb Staires Congrats . . . I will liken you to Trump at this point. You have stolen it all and your initiatives won't pass. None of them will. Deb Staires Exactly. Nothing. Now you have filed and stolen I-14 in my opinion, you talked bad about Safer on the Secretary of State's page and yet you are a major author, you somehow took over PCC and you make us look like a bunch of drug-crazed folks. I won't spend a dime or another second of my time working on any of these initiatives. Here are links to the 1st two RAD initiative which were filed in 2015 as Arizona initiative. I wrote both of them. http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_marijuana.php http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_heroin.php And here are links to the current two RAD initiatives which were filed this week. And again I wrote both of them. http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_marijuana_2018.p… http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_heroin_2018.php While many people think re-legalizing all drugs is insane, it has worked quite well in Portugal. Initiative to re-legalize Marijuana in Arizona C-02-2016 RAD - Relegalize All Drugs relegalize.100webspace.net Like CommentShare 17 Judie Hebisen, Daniel Dean and 15 others 16 shares 13 Comments Comments Lucino Kamaru Lucino Kamaru WTF I see RAD and safer AZ backing each other on this rather then the MPP vs safer AZ we had last time around I have personally sent copies of the AZ initiative to marijunna groups through the county those other states get a bill for decriminalization are they copying safer az? people are stupid! Like · Reply · 21 hrs Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Here is the RAD marijuana initiative if you haven't seen it. Only 11 lines compared to the 25 pages or so. And unlike the Safer Arizona initiative the RAD initiative is 100% complete legalization. ...See More Initiative to re-legalize Marijuana in Arizona in 2018 C-??-2018 relegalize.100webspace.net Like · Reply · Remove Preview · 1 · 18 hrs Cindy Farnsworth Cindy Farnsworth Needed to be stated in this action , which I must say makes sense to me for the most part is that the state of Arizona does NOT recognize Any federal laws including scheduling Of said plant! Like · Reply · 1 · 2 hrs Mickey Jones Write a reply... David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Yup. You defiantly made yourself look like a total complete idiot with this stunt. We could have supported you but you had to get stupid with it, Like · Reply · 5 · 14 hrs Tiann Ranae Tiann Ranae I got your back Mickey Jones You already know that❣ Like · Reply · 2 · 13 hrs Vann Gutier Vann Gutier Mickey, this is stupid Like · Reply · 1 · 12 hrs Tiann Ranae Tiann Ranae Just curious in your opinion how so? Like · Reply · 12 hrs Vann Gutier Vann Gutier I wasnt talking to u Like · Reply · 1 · 3 hrs Judie Hebisen Judie Hebisen we;d all like to know Like · Reply · 2 · 1 hr Mickey Jones Write a reply... Wilamena Corsaro Wilamena Corsaro I like both initiatives of course the same wording and ideas are Going be used By these two groups bc your on the same path But in all fairness. David W and Deb S. Mickey J has written and done a tremendous amount of research on this information thats now being recycled Kinda sounds like a power play might be going on Like · Reply · 1 · 12 hrs Vann Gutier Vann Gutier By mickey YES Like · Reply · 12 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski By mickey yes. Just read the 100 word summary. Every time Mickey doesn't get his way or he's out voted he lashes out on the internet Like · Reply · 4 hrs Vann Gutier Vann Gutier Mickeys initiative looks like my 4th grade niece wrote it Like · Reply · 4 hrs · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Don't insult your 4th grade nice. Like · Reply · 4 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Even with Mickey was on our board. When he would get out voted he would stop participating, talk shit about us on the internet, and use his contribution to our campaign has leverage to undermine our voting board. These are reasons why we had to vote him off our board. His initiative is good conceptually but its nothing more than a publicity stunt that's already dead. He's just running around by himself meanwhile we have a huge campaign on this side that's actually going somewhere. Had he taken his initiative seriously I could have supported it but because his hundred word summary specifically attacks our initiative, he turned it into a joke and it makes him look bad. I can't support a joke initiative. Like · Reply · 4 hrs · Edited Wilamena Corsaro Wilamena Corsaro Thank you David W for the additional info about what is going on I had no idea and I am truly sorry that Mickey couldn't work well with others Mickey did and does have great input from what I have read To bad his energy goes to Negatives when he is voted down You all being friends this decision must have been hard Just let me say !You guys at Safer Arizona are amazing and I might add doing a Fantastic Job Like · Reply · 1 · 2 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Thanks for the support. Like · Reply · 2 hrs Mickey Jones Write a reply... Tiann Ranae Tiann Ranae That's an extraordinary conclusion Vann Gutier What brings you to this conclusion. I know Mickey Jones personally and he is no way shape or form a power trip type person. He's passive submissive and very soft spoken I've watched Dave sell out left and right. This is kinda funny... I hope your kidding... He blocked me because of truth and he won't debate me or let my opinion be heard on his page because I was intimately involved in the last campaign. My opinion holds merit. I'm sorry but this campaign is built like a house of cards. I don't wish to elaborate further. Like · Reply · 1 · 11 hrs · Edited Alex Gentry Alex Gentry Mickey has an absolute right to his opinion and can file whatever he wants too. I like mike. I don't think it was wise or cool to use a one hundred word summary to talk madness against Safer when that space should have used to make your appeal to the voter. I think that was kinda cold striking out against everyone at Safer like that but whatever. Like · Reply · 2 · 11 hrs Dave Harris Dave Harris I swear there's no greater divide between Stoners then legalization. Sad part is Arizona will not legalize any time soon because there always seems to be two groups fighting with each other. While I respect both these men this s*** is why Arizona marijuana industry is pathetic. Like · Reply · 1 · 4 hrs · Edited Dave Harris Dave Harris And the f*****-up thing is the two groups that are fighting each other they're two groups that want the same f****** thing it's not like Pro pot versus anti pot Like · Reply · 6 hrs Nick A Thomas Nick A Thomas So this is what I was reading about the other day... I was what the hell is going on now... With 2 initiative one for all drugs is that what I read if so that will not sit well with the conservatives in Arizona and will be confusing for the voters on election day.. I am sure the spin will be don't vote for either they are drug pushers; I know how they do this well they did it to me on a makeshift trail to convict me on growing 13 plant for veggie no flower... Yes we fight each other more that we support... Crap no protections for low income, homeless or people who dont want to buy chemically grown plants... so 2020 will be the next time patients might see relief??? I need to move if I want to smoke cannabis and not uses Pharmaceutical medication I will be 60 in 2020 Xuck!!! Like · Reply · 2 · 4 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Except it's an illusion. Mickey's is not fighting for anything. We're trying to get our initiative on the ballot. His is only a publicity stunt. He got his publicity now its over. Like · Reply · 1 · 4 hrs Dave Harris Dave Harris Dave while l don't live in Arizona anymore I do fully support your initiative but sadly I think you have a very big uphill battle to fight with you when you got s*** like this going on. Like · Reply · 4 hrs · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Quite honestly this is the least of our worries. It's already over he got his press and now it's done. Rad is dead but we do have an uphill battle with our own Logistics and the prohibitionists once we make the ballot. Like · Reply · 1 · 4 hrs Dave Harris Dave Harris Best of luck Like · Reply · 1 · 4 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Thanks man Like · Reply · 4 hrs Mickey Jones Write a reply... Michelle Mushee Westenfield Michelle Mushee Westenfield Mickey You can't steal from something you helped create. Remember you helped in the process of creating Safer Arizona's initiative. As well as myself and others. So when you say these things you're really saying them about yourself. And it's sad to see someone continuously do that to themselves. I'm also saddened by the fact that you don't want to see your creation thrive like some of us do, that you would rather continue to throw mud at this seedling rather than try to encourage it to grow, flower and fruit. It's the same type of attitude that made myself and others at Safer resend your seat on the board. We at Safer have not once said anything disparaging about your initiative in any way shape or form. And as a board member I would wish that you would give us the same respect. Like · Reply · 1 · 40 mins · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Correct. I think most of us fundamentally agree with what used to be the purpose of the RAD initiative however now that it's marketed to sling mud at our initiative it only hurts both causes so I cannot support it anymore. Like · Reply · 23 mins ---- Another round from the above link https://www.facebook.com/aname.abetter/posts/697677137059980?comment_id=698161060344921&reply_comment_id=698294293664931¬if_t=feed_comment¬if_id=1490534660916260 David Stephen Wisniewski Thanks man Like · Reply · 5 hrs Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Your sounding like MPP last time around Like · Reply · 56 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Yeah. I see your point. MPP thought us as a team could not make the ballot but considering the circumstances were being realistic. Mickey wrote an initiative and turned it into a joke he's not even serious about it. He has admit several times to all of us that he never expects to make the ballot with his initiative. It's just a publicity stunt to give him a platform to talk about ideas. So how can we take someone seriously who doesn't even take themselves seriously? How can we support an initiative that attacks our initiative in the description of it? Mickey is upset with us because he wants to be able to sell marijuana to children in drug free school zones which our initiative does not allow. If you look at his complaints against us those are it. He's mad that we have misdemeanors for adults selling to children and he's mad that we don't allow sales a thousand feet from a school zone. So yeah we can't expect that to make the ballot or pass especially when the head of it is homeless wandering the streets. Like · Reply · 1 · 48 mins · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski If we allowed adults to sell marijuana to children Willy nilly in a drug free school zone like Mickey wants and the prohibitionists put 10 million dollars behind that narrative it would screw up the entire campaign and it would fail. Not to mention it would be harder for people to collect on that because they know it wouldn't pass. Like · Reply · 1 · 47 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton With your personal attacks, you sound like MPP. The lack of decorum and respect is not needed again. Like · Reply · 39 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski All in defense. You can't call our entire campaign fraudulent for not allowing the sale of marijuana to children in drug free school zones and not expect criticism or to be taken seriously. Especially when you admit that you don't expect it to ever get...See More Like · Reply · 36 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Did you read his hundred words summary? It literally calls our entire campaign phony. Like · Reply · 34 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton So you feel the need to drag your name down by doing the same? Your choice Like · Reply · 32 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I stand up for myself and I always will. It's what I do. I also stand up for others I'm standing up for my board and I'm standing up for my campaign against a guy who is talking shit about our campaign on the text of his initiative. And I'm calling it ...See More Like · Reply · 27 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton If your prop is as great as you say, then why let it bother you? It should be able to stand on its own on its merits. But that's my opinion. Like · Reply · 1 · 21 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski It does. And that's why we have over 400 volunteers trying to get petitions and have printed 10% of all of our petitions already. Our campaign is rocking. It's just annoying that Mickey is lashing out at us over wanting to sell weed to kids at schools....See More Like · Reply · 2 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski But you're right. I'm done. I've expressed how it makes me feel. Now I have to get back to work. Like · Reply · 2 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski - Now that's a lie David. The RAD marijuana initiative can make it to the ballot. It's supported by the people. Yea, the RAD heroin inititive probably won't get on the ballot. But that's for the future. First we have to legalize marijuana, and then all drugs in the future. Like · Reply · 1 · 1 min Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski - In my view David, you and Tom Dean sold out the marijuana community. Like · Reply · Just now David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Not a lie. It won't make the ballot because you don't have the means to get it there. And you just talk crap about our initiative. It's not a real initiative. You did it wrong. Change your hundred word summary and maybe you can get support. Like · Reply · Just now Mickey Jones Write a reply... Michelle Mushee Westenfield Michelle Mushee Westenfield Mickey You can't steal from something you helped create. Remember you helped in the process of creating Safer Arizona's initiative. As well as myself and others. So when you say these things you're really saying them about yourself. And it's sad to see...See More Like · Reply · 2 · 1 hr · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Correct. I think most of us fundamentally agree with what used to be the purpose of the RAD initiative however now that it's marketed to sling mud at our initiative it only hurts both causes so I cannot support it anymore. Like · Reply · 1 hr Mickey Jones Write a reply... Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski & Michelle Mushee Westenfield if you don't want to completely legalize marijuana then don't support the RAD initiative. Support the Safer Arizona initiative, which has criminal charges in it for a number of victimless marijua...See More Like · Reply · 22 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Mickey Jones you let everyone know last year that you never expect to make the ballot with your initiative but you file it just for the publicity. That's fine. And I can support the conceptual ideas of your initiative but because your hundred word summ...See More Like · Reply · 1 · 19 mins · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Selling weed to children in school zones will tank the campaign Mickey Jones. Like · Reply · 1 · 17 mins Vann Gutier Vann Gutier Boom! Like · Reply · 16 mins Mickey Jones Write a reply... David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Look at this Mickey Jones good people like bong hit Bryan are turned off but your outrageous behavior. No automatic alt text available. Like · Reply · 14 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I'm getting messages about your behavioral issues all over the internet. Image may contain: text Like · Reply · 14 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski These are just people in the community that are watching and see how disruptive you've become to the movement and people avoid us for it. Like · Reply · 12 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I've defended you as long as I could Mickey Jones. Despite all your lashing out I stood up for you for months and months but I can't do it anymore. Like · Reply · 10 mins ----- Again more on this thread https://www.facebook.com/aname.abetter/posts/697677137059980?comment_id=698161060344921&reply_comment_id=698294293664931¬if_t=feed_comment¬if_id=1490534660916260 Mickey Jones · Yesterday at 10:55am · I'm not sure if I'm being accused of stealing the Safer Arizona initiative and re-filing it as the RAD initiatives??? Sorry, but if I am being accused of stealing the stuff from Safer Arizona, that's not true. I wrote a lot of the Safer Arizona 2018 initiative to legalize marijuana in Arizona. And a lot of the Safer Arizona 2018 initiative came from the RAD 2016 initiative which I wrote 100% of. We used the RAD initiative, the Jack Herer initiative and the MPP initiative as a base when we wrote the original Safer Arizona 2018 initiative. And of course that was before it got watered down by Tom Dean. When we initially wrote it, it completely legalize marijuana, with the exception of an age limit of 18 years, and a simple sales tax on marijuana sales that couldn't be greater than the sales tax on food. Deb Staires Congrats . . . I will liken you to Trump at this point. You have stolen it all and your initiatives won't pass. None of them will. Deb Staires Exactly. Nothing. Now you have filed and stolen I-14 in my opinion, you talked bad about Safer on the Secretary of State's page and yet you are a major author, you somehow took over PCC and you make us look like a bunch of drug-crazed folks. I won't spend a dime or another second of my time working on any of these initiatives. Here are links to the 1st two RAD initiative which were filed in 2015 as Arizona initiative. I wrote both of them. http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_marijuana.php http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_heroin.php And here are links to the current two RAD initiatives which were filed this week. And again I wrote both of them. http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_marijuana_2018.p… http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_heroin_2018.php While many people think re-legalizing all drugs is insane, it has worked quite well in Portugal. Initiative to re-legalize Marijuana in Arizona C-02-2016 RAD - Relegalize All Drugs relegalize.100webspace.net Like CommentShare 20 Allyson Thomas, Chris Niemerg and 18 others 17 shares 21 Comments Comments Lucino Kamaru Lucino Kamaru WTF I see RAD and safer AZ backing each other on this rather then the MPP vs safer AZ we had last time around I have personally sent copies of the AZ initiative to marijunna groups through the county those other states get a bill for decriminalization are they copying safer az? people are stupid! Like · Reply · 23 hrs Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Here is the RAD marijuana initiative if you haven't seen it. Only 11 lines compared to the 25 pages or so. And unlike the Safer Arizona initiative the RAD initiative is 100% complete legalization. ...See More Initiative to re-legalize Marijuana in Arizona in 2018 C-??-2018 relegalize.100webspace.net Like · Reply · Remove Preview · 1 · 20 hrs Mickey Jones replied · 4 Replies · 1 hr David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Yup. You defiantly made yourself look like a total complete idiot with this stunt. We could have supported you but you had to get stupid with it, Like · Reply · 5 · 15 hrs Tiann Ranae Tiann Ranae I got your back Mickey Jones You already know that❣ Like · Reply · 2 · 15 hrs Vann Gutier Vann Gutier Mickey, this is stupid Like · Reply · 1 · 14 hrs Judie Hebisen replied · 3 Replies · 3 hrs Wilamena Corsaro Wilamena Corsaro I like both initiatives of course the same wording and ideas are Going be used By these two groups bc your on the same path ...See More Like · Reply · 1 · 13 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski replied · 7 Replies · 4 hrs Tiann Ranae Tiann Ranae That's an extraordinary conclusion Vann Gutier What brings you to this conclusion. I know Mickey Jones personally and he is no way shape or form a power trip type person....See More Like · Reply · 2 · 13 hrs · Edited Alex Gentry Alex Gentry Mickey has an absolute right to his opinion and can file whatever he wants too. I like mike. I don't think it was wise or cool to use a one hundred word summary to talk madness against Safer when that space should have used to make your appeal to the voter. I think that was kinda cold striking out against everyone at Safer like that but whatever. Like · Reply · 3 · 12 hrs Dave Harris Dave Harris I swear there's no greater divide between Stoners then legalization. Sad part is Arizona will not legalize any time soon because there always seems to be two groups fighting with each other. While I respect both these men this s*** is why Arizona marijuana industry is pathetic. Like · Reply · 2 · 6 hrs · Edited Dave Harris Dave Harris And the f*****-up thing is the two groups that are fighting each other they're two groups that want the same f****** thing it's not like Pro pot versus anti pot Like · Reply · 1 · 8 hrs Nick A Thomas Nick A Thomas So this is what I was reading about the other day... I was what the hell is going on now... With 2 initiative one for all drugs is that what I read if so that will not sit well with the conservatives in Arizona and will be confusing for the voters on e...See More Like · Reply · 2 · 5 hrs Mickey Jones replied · 1 Reply David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Except it's an illusion. Mickey's is not fighting for anything. We're trying to get our initiative on the ballot. His is only a publicity stunt. He got his publicity now its over. Like · Reply · 1 · 5 hrs Hide 62 Replies Dave Harris Dave Harris Dave while l don't live in Arizona anymore I do fully support your initiative but sadly I think you have a very big uphill battle to fight with you when you got s*** like this going on. Like · Reply · 5 hrs · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Quite honestly this is the least of our worries. It's already over he got his press and now it's done. Rad is dead but we do have an uphill battle with our own Logistics and the prohibitionists once we make the ballot. Like · Reply · 1 · 5 hrs Dave Harris Dave Harris Best of luck Like · Reply · 1 · 5 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Thanks man Like · Reply · 5 hrs Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Your sounding like MPP last time around Like · Reply · 1 hr David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Yeah. I see your point. MPP thought us as a team could not make the ballot but considering the circumstances were being realistic. Mickey wrote an initiative and turned it into a joke he's not even serious about it. He has admit several times to all of us that he never expects to make the ballot with his initiative. It's just a publicity stunt to give him a platform to talk about ideas. So how can we take someone seriously who doesn't even take themselves seriously? How can we support an initiative that attacks our initiative in the description of it? Mickey is upset with us because he wants to be able to sell marijuana to children in drug free school zones which our initiative does not allow. If you look at his complaints against us those are it. He's mad that we have misdemeanors for adults selling to children and he's mad that we don't allow sales a thousand feet from a school zone. So yeah we can't expect that to make the ballot or pass especially when the head of it is homeless wandering the streets. Like · Reply · 1 · 1 hr · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski If we allowed adults to sell marijuana to children Willy nilly in a drug free school zone like Mickey wants and the prohibitionists put 10 million dollars behind that narrative it would screw up the entire campaign and it would fail. Not to mention it would be harder for people to collect on that because they know it wouldn't pass. Like · Reply · 1 · 1 hr Matt Caperton Matt Caperton With your personal attacks, you sound like MPP. The lack of decorum and respect is not needed again. Like · Reply · 59 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski All in defense. You can't call our entire campaign fraudulent for not allowing the sale of marijuana to children in drug free school zones and not expect criticism or to be taken seriously. Especially when you admit that you don't expect it to ever get...See More Like · Reply · 56 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Did you read his hundred words summary? It literally calls our entire campaign phony. Like · Reply · 55 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton So you feel the need to drag your name down by doing the same? Your choice Like · Reply · 53 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I stand up for myself and I always will. It's what I do. I also stand up for others I'm standing up for my board and I'm standing up for my campaign against a guy who is talking shit about our campaign on the text of his initiative. And I'm calling it ...See More Like · Reply · 47 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton If your prop is as great as you say, then why let it bother you? It should be able to stand on its own on its merits. But that's my opinion. Like · Reply · 1 · 41 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski It does. And that's why we have over 400 volunteers trying to get petitions and have printed 10% of all of our petitions already. Our campaign is rocking. It's just annoying that Mickey is lashing out at us over wanting to sell weed to kids at schools....See More Like · Reply · 22 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski But you're right. I'm done. I've expressed how it makes me feel. Now I have to get back to work. Like · Reply · 22 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski - Now that's a lie David. The RAD marijuana initiative can make it to the ballot. It's supported by the people. Yea, the RAD heroin inititive probably won't get on the ballot. But that's for the future. First we have to legalize marijuana, and then all drugs in the future. Like · Reply · 1 · 21 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski - In my view David, you and Tom Dean sold out the marijuana community. Like · Reply · 1 · 20 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Not a lie. It won't make the ballot because you don't have the means to get it there. And you just talk crap about our initiative. It's not a real initiative. You did it wrong. Change your hundred word summary and maybe you can get support. Like · Reply · 20 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Yeah because you want to sell weed to kids in school zones. I get it. You're hardcore libertarian extremist and if you don't get your way you lash out. We had a board of 12 people we voted on everything in the draft. You got outvoted by the other 11 people. It wasn't me and Tom Dean Like · Reply · 19 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Sounds like someone believes he speaks for all az Like · Reply · 1 · 18 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Look dude. You're just pissing people off in the community. You're causing more division. Can't you see that? Like · Reply · 18 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Yeah Mickey does think he speaks for all Arizona but really we're trying to get something passed not just make a statement and get on the news. Like · Reply · 17 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton SAFERAZ lost credibility after the 4th change Like · Reply · 17 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Had you filed your initiative without bashing our entire campaign our volunteers and our voting board we wouldn't even be having this conversation. But you chose to s*** on everyone including your friend Alex Like · Reply · 17 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Matt Caperton you're just being rude. I see the numbers coming in and we are exploding. So don't try to upset me like Mickey is. Like · Reply · 16 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski What is the 4th change anyways Like · Reply · 16 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Oh no am I upsetting you? Your baseless name calling is just like MPP Like · Reply · 15 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski What name did I call. Go back and screenshot it Like · Reply · 14 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski If you are a Democrat and I call you a Democrat I'm not calling you a name I'm just calling you what you identify as Like · Reply · 14 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Matt Caperton - David accuses me of lying when I say that him and Tom Dean turned the Safer Arizona initiative into a leaner version of Prop 205. But the Safer Arizona initiative is a leaner of Prop 205. Demetri Downing was invited to come to our meetings and give us advice. I almost dropped out after that meeting. Sadly at that meeting Tom Dean supported Demetri Downing nonsense. I refused to go to the next meeting with Demetri Downing. Shortly after that I think most of the people on the Safer Arizona board figured out that Demetri Downing is full of it. Demetri Downing want to give special rights to the current dispensaries. That's rubbish. Like · Reply · 13 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton If your prop was as good as you say, why should any of this phaze you? Like · Reply · 13 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski And you are essentially calling me MPP so how can you realistically criticize me for defending myself against Mickey and call me names at the same time? Like · Reply · 13 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton SAFERAZ is turning into MPP light Like · Reply · 12 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski We have a board. Mickey got out voted he is lashing out. That is all. Like · Reply · 12 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Matt Caperton - Tom Dean tried to get us to support some rubbish where if you grew over 99 plants you had to get a license which initially cost $20,000 or $30,000 and had a yearly $10,000 renewal fee. David didn't like that when I posted it on Facebook. Tom Dean continually watered down all the protections me and Alex put in the initiative. Like · Reply · 11 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Matt Caperton have you read our initiative? It's the most permissive initiative in the United States. Unlimited possession, 48 plants, free market , post-conviction relief, post expungement relief, gun rights , forbid the government from bringing back prohibition. When this passes it will be the most permissive initiative to ever passed since prohibition started Like · Reply · 11 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton I say your MPP light because your in bed with them. Like · Reply · 11 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski All you have to do to sell cannabis and our initiative is get a $50 transaction privilege tax license Like · Reply · 10 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Oh now you're just making stuff up. This conversation just went to Fairytale Land. See you guys later Like · Reply · 10 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I just want to point out your hypocrisy that you're telling me not to be rude to Mickey and you're making up lies about me on the spot. Wow. I took you seriously for a little bit. Like · Reply · 10 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Tsk tsk Like · Reply · 9 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I'm disappointed in you Marr Like · Reply · 9 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Matt Like · Reply · 9 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Matt Caperton - Initiative the Safer Arizona initiative had this provision in it to protect marijuana users from crooked cops. "10. Any government employee, police officer or prosecutor that interferes with a persons marijuana rights defined in this initiative shall be personally and civilly liable to each person for each incident for a minimum of $1 million in damages or 10 times the actual amount of damages which ever is greater. There shall be no immunity to police offices or prosecutors who claim to be "acting in good faith" or other reasons. " - Tom Dean first got it lowered to $100,000 and then got it removed. Why was Tom Dean against it? Is it the fact that getting rid of crooked cops would cause him to lose business? Don't know. Like · Reply · 9 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Our board voted it out. Like · Reply · 8 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton See MPP all over again Like · Reply · 7 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Mickey you seem to confuse my opinion with a board vote. We voted Like · Reply · 7 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Sounds like a lawyer ruined a great initiative Like · Reply · 7 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Can no one else read besides me? We had a board. We have discussions that last hours sometimes and we vote. There's no King here that's why he is upset he wanted to be the king of our initiative but we took and put from the community and after discuss and realized that a provision attacking law enforcement and destroying the lives of police officers is a bad narrative and it's not necessary for cannabis legalization. Like · Reply · 5 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Lol keeping police, and Lawyers in money. Like · Reply · 3 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Matt Caperton do you want Mickey Jones selling weed to your kid at school? Like · Reply · 3 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Sure Like · Reply · 2 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski If Mickey Jones was trying to sell weed to eight year olds at elementary schools do you think that should be legal? Like · Reply · 2 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Better than pills Like · Reply · 2 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Well then join his team. But the vast majority of people that I speak to don't want that kind of behavior legalize Like · Reply · 2 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski We already have medical marijuana for kids. I'm talking about Mickey Jones the homeless Drifter Selling weed and heroin to your kids Like · Reply · 1 min David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski The rad initiative would permit both Like · Reply · 1 min David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Do you think Arizona will vote yes on a law that allowed homeless Drifters to sell weed and heroin to children at schools? Like · Reply · Just now Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Again that is a lie David. I have never said I think children should smoke marijuana. In fact the RAD position is that we don't support recreational drug use. That is up to the person. The RAD position is people should not be arrested for victimless drug crimes. That drug abuse is a MEDICAL problem, not a criminal problem. When it comes to children and marijuana the RAD position is that PARENTS, not the government should decide if their children smoke or use marijuana. And I think you may be a hypocrite on this Dave. If I remember correctly you were arrested several times in high school for marijuana crimes. And that you said it was wrong for the government to arrest you for a victimless marijuana crime. Now you want to allow the govenrment to arrest children for victimless marijuana crimes? Like your Safer Arizona initiative allows? If my memory is correct, Dave you are being a hypocrite on this. Dave, you need to start addressing the facts on the issue and stop name calling. Just say the RAD initiative doesn't have an age limit for marijuana use. And admit that your Safer Arizona initiative will allow the police to arrest people who are under 21 that have marijuana. And that the Safer Arizona initiative will allow the police to arrest adults who sell marijuana to people under 21. And I suspect in both cases Tom Dean will be looking to make some money defending those adults and children arrested for victimless marijuana crimes. Not that Tom Dean intentionally wrote it that way. Like · Reply · Just now Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Yeah at least he understands there's more to legalization than what you like Like · Reply · Just now David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I get y'all might be super libertarian but come on seriously guys? Like · Reply · Just now Matt Caperton Matt Caperton You are a sad person if all you can come up with is that someone is homeless Like · Reply · Just now Mickey Jones Write a reply... Michelle Mushee Westenfield Michelle Mushee Westenfield Mickey You can't steal from something you helped create. Remember you helped in the process of creating Safer Arizona's initiative. As well as myself and others. So when you say these things you're really saying them about yourself. And it's sad to see...See More Like · Reply · 2 · 2 hrs · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Correct. I think most of us fundamentally agree with what used to be the purpose of the RAD initiative however now that it's marketed to sling mud at our initiative it only hurts both causes so I cannot support it anymore. Like · Reply · 1 hr Mickey Jones Write a reply... Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski & Michelle Mushee Westenfield if you don't want to completely legalize marijuana then don't support the RAD initiative. Support the Safer Arizona initiative, which has criminal charges in it for a number of victimless marijua...See More Like · Reply · 42 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Mickey Jones you let everyone know last year that you never expect to make the ballot with your initiative but you file it just for the publicity. That's fine. And I can support the conceptual ideas of your initiative but because your hundred word summ...See More Like · Reply · 1 · 39 mins · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Selling weed to children in school zones will tank the campaign Mickey Jones. Like · Reply · 1 · 37 mins Vann Gutier Vann Gutier Boom! Like · Reply · 37 mins Mickey Jones Write a reply... David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Look at this Mickey Jones good people like bong hit Bryan are turned off but your outrageous behavior. No automatic alt text available. Like · Reply · 34 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I'm getting messages about your behavioral issues all over the internet. Image may contain: text Like · Reply · 34 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski These are just people in the community that are watching and see how disruptive you've become to the movement and people avoid us for it. Like · Reply · 33 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I've defended you as long as I could Mickey Jones. Despite all your lashing out I stood up for you for months and months but I can't do it anymore. Like · Reply · 30 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Again that is a lie David. I have never said I think children should smoke marijuana. In fact the RAD position is that we don't support recreational drug use. That is up to the person. The RAD position is people should not be arrested for victimless drug crimes. That drug abuse is a MEDICAL problem, not a criminal problem. When it comes to children and marijuana the RAD position is that PARENTS, not the government should decide if their children smoke or use marijuana. And I think you may be a hypocrite on this Dave. If I remember correctly you were arrested several times in high school for marijuana crimes. And that you said it was wrong for the government to arrest you for a victimless marijuana crime. Now you want to allow the govenrment to arrest children for victimless marijuana crimes? Like your Safer Arizona initiative allows? If my memory is correct, Dave you are being a hypocrite on this. Dave, you need to start addressing the facts on the issue and stop name calling. Just say the RAD initiative doesn't have an age limit for marijuana use. And admit that your Safer Arizona initiative will allow the police to arrest people who are under 21 that have marijuana. And that the Safer Arizona initiative will allow the police to arrest adults who sell marijuana to people under 21. And I suspect in both cases Tom Dean will be looking to make some money defending those adults and children arrested for victimless marijuana crimes. Not that Tom Dean intentionally wrote it that way. Like · Reply · Just now -------- And even more stuff on the same thing Mickey Jones · Yesterday at 10:55am · I'm not sure if I'm being accused of stealing the Safer Arizona initiative and re-filing it as the RAD initiatives??? Sorry, but if I am being accused of stealing the stuff from Safer Arizona, that's not true. I wrote a lot of the Safer Arizona 2018 initiative to legalize marijuana in Arizona. And a lot of the Safer Arizona 2018 initiative came from the RAD 2016 initiative which I wrote 100% of. We used the RAD initiative, the Jack Herer initiative and the MPP initiative as a base when we wrote the original Safer Arizona 2018 initiative. And of course that was before it got watered down by Tom Dean. When we initially wrote it, it completely legalize marijuana, with the exception of an age limit of 18 years, and a simple sales tax on marijuana sales that couldn't be greater than the sales tax on food. Deb Staires Congrats . . . I will liken you to Trump at this point. You have stolen it all and your initiatives won't pass. None of them will. Deb Staires Exactly. Nothing. Now you have filed and stolen I-14 in my opinion, you talked bad about Safer on the Secretary of State's page and yet you are a major author, you somehow took over PCC and you make us look like a bunch of drug-crazed folks. I won't spend a dime or another second of my time working on any of these initiatives. Here are links to the 1st two RAD initiative which were filed in 2015 as Arizona initiative. I wrote both of them. http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_marijuana.php http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_heroin.php And here are links to the current two RAD initiatives which were filed this week. And again I wrote both of them. http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_marijuana_2018.p… http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_heroin_2018.php While many people think re-legalizing all drugs is insane, it has worked quite well in Portugal. Initiative to re-legalize Marijuana in Arizona C-02-2016 RAD - Relegalize All Drugs relegalize.100webspace.net LikeShow more reactions CommentShare 21 Lorenzo Hector, Allyson Thomas and 19 others 18 shares 22 Comments Comments Lucino Kamaru Lucino Kamaru WTF I see RAD and safer AZ backing each other on this rather then the MPP vs safer AZ we had last time around I have personally sent copies of the AZ initiative to marijunna groups through the county those other states get a bill for decriminalization are they copying safer az? people are stupid! Like · Reply · 23 hrs Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Here is the RAD marijuana initiative if you haven't seen it. Only 11 lines compared to the 25 pages or so. And unlike the Safer Arizona initiative the RAD initiative is 100% complete legalization. http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_marijuana_2018... OFFICIAL TITLE 100% complete re-legalization of marijuana FULL TEXT OF PROPOSITION Be it enacted by the People of the State of Arizona The Constitution of the State of Arizona is amended BY THE ADDITION OF A NEW ARTICLE to read: 1. The government shall recognize that marijuana abuse is NOT a criminal problem but a medical problem. 2. The government shall NOT tax, regulate, or pass any laws governing the use of marijuana. 3. The government shall NOT assist any other government entities, such as Federal, foreign, world, Native American or state governments in enforcing any laws against marijuana. 4. The government shall NOT pass any regulations discriminating against people or entities that use use marijuana. 5. For this initiative the word marijuana refers to any form of marijuana, cannabis or hemp and includes concentrated forms such as hashish, hash oil, wax and shatter. This includes any form of marijuana used for recreational use, religious use, medical use, commercial use, industrialist use or other use. This includes all parts of any plant of the genus cannabis, whether growing or not, the seeds of such plant, the resin extracted from any part of a plant of the genus cannabis; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture or preparation of such plant, its seeds or its resin; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture or preparation of such resin or tetrahydrocannabinol. This includes all paraphernalia for marijuana use, such as but not limited to pipes, bongs, cigarette papers or dabbing tools. 6. Any person convicted of any marijuana offense in the past shall automatically have their criminal record cleared for those charges and automatically receive a full pardon for those charges. 7. Any person arrested for any marijuana offense in the past who accepted a plea bargain for reduced charges shall automatically have their criminal record cleared for those reduced charges and automatically receive a full pardon for those reduced charges. 8. The government shall not extradite a person to another state or country if the person could be charged with marijuana crimes which would be legal in Arizona. 9. Any government employee, agent, elected official, judge, police officer or prosecutor that arrests a person, passes a law or issues a ruling, guideline or edict that that interferes with a person's marijuana use shall be personally and civilly liable to each person for each incident for a minimum of $1 million in damages or 10 times the actual amount of damages whichever is greater. There shall be no immunity to a person who claims to be "acting in good faith" or for any other reason. 10. All government courts shall accept cases involving marijuana use, and decide the case based on the oral, written, or other contracts of the parties involved. Courts may not refuse cases by saying that marijuana is illegal under Federal law, international law, or other laws. 11. The use of marijuana is defined as, but not limited to using, smoking, vaping, eating, consuming, drinking, snorting, transdermal delivery, injecting, sale, transfer, growth, cultivating, manufacture, processing, cooking, production, storage, possession, giving legal advice, transportation, or importation of marijuana. Initiative to re-legalize Marijuana in Arizona in 2018 C-??-2018 relegalize.100webspace.net Like · Reply · Remove Preview · 1 · 20 hrs Cindy Farnsworth Cindy Farnsworth Needed to be stated in this action , which I must say makes sense to me for the most part is that the state of Arizona does NOT recognize Any federal laws including scheduling Of said plant! Like · Reply · 1 · 4 hrs Mickey Jones Mickey Jones An Arizona initiative can't repeal Federal laws. The RAD initiative end the Arizona war on marijuana. To end the Federal war on marijuana will take something else. Like · Reply · 1 hr Mickey Jones Mickey Jones The RAD initiative does say the Arizona government can't help the Federal government enforce their marijuana laws. That was also taken from the original RAD initiative and put in the Safer Arizona initiative. Like · Reply · 1 hr Jessica Belle Jessica Belle Now that's an initiative I could really get behind. I'm so sick of this "tax and regulate" nonsense. It seems that that's the only way to get leftists to support marijuana legalization though. Like · Reply · 37 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Here is a link to the full RAD marijuana initiative. It''s only 11 lines compared to the 20+ pages of the Safer Arizona initiative. http://relegalize.100webspace.net/legalize_marijuana_2018......See More Initiative to re-legalize Marijuana in Arizona in 2018 C-??-2018 relegalize.100webspace.net Like · Reply · Remove Preview · 17 mins Mickey Jones Write a reply... David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Yup. You defiantly made yourself look like a total complete idiot with this stunt. We could have supported you but you had to get stupid with it, Like · Reply · 5 · 16 hrs Tiann Ranae Tiann Ranae I got your back Mickey Jones You already know that❣ Like · Reply · 2 · 15 hrs Vann Gutier Vann Gutier Mickey, this is stupid Like · Reply · 1 · 14 hrs Tiann Ranae Tiann Ranae Just curious in your opinion how so? Like · Reply · 14 hrs Vann Gutier Vann Gutier I wasnt talking to u Like · Reply · 1 · 5 hrs Judie Hebisen Judie Hebisen we;d all like to know Like · Reply · 2 · 3 hrs Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Let's not address the problems with the Safer Arizona initiative. David say blame everything on Mickey, and that's what Vann Gutier is going to do. Like · Reply · 6 mins Mickey Jones Write a reply... Wilamena Corsaro Wilamena Corsaro I like both initiatives of course the same wording and ideas are Going be used By these two groups bc your on the same path But in all fairness. David W and Deb S. Mickey J has written and done a tremendous amount of research on this information thats now being recycled Kinda sounds like a power play might be going on Like · Reply · 2 · 14 hrs Vann Gutier Vann Gutier By mickey YES Like · Reply · 14 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski By mickey yes. Just read the 100 word summary. Every time Mickey doesn't get his way or he's out voted he lashes out on the internet Like · Reply · 6 hrs Vann Gutier Vann Gutier Mickeys initiative looks like my 4th grade niece wrote it Like · Reply · 6 hrs · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Don't insult your 4th grade nice. Like · Reply · 1 · 6 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Even with Mickey was on our board. When he would get out voted he would stop participating, talk shit about us on the internet, and use his contribution to our campaign has leverage to undermine our voting board. These are reasons why we had to vote hi...See More Like · Reply · 1 · 5 hrs · Edited Wilamena Corsaro Wilamena Corsaro Thank you David W for the additional info about what is going on I had no idea and I am truly sorry that Mickey couldn't work well with others Mickey did and does have great input from what I have read ...See More Like · Reply · 1 · 4 hrs David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Thanks for the support. Like · Reply · 4 hrs Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski - David you often don't listen and when then you claim I'm hard to get along with when I try to explain important stuff to you. And at that point you also start calling me names. Like · Reply · 5 mins Mickey Jones Write a reply... Tiann Ranae Tiann Ranae That's an extraordinary conclusion Vann Gutier What brings you to this conclusion. I know Mickey Jones personally and he is no way shape or form a power trip type person. He's passive submissive and very soft spoken I've watched Dave sell out left and right. This is kinda funny... I hope your kidding... He blocked me because of truth and he won't debate me or let my opinion be heard on his page because I was intimately involved in the last campaign. My opinion holds merit. I'm sorry but this campaign is built like a house of cards. I don't wish to elaborate further. Like · Reply · 2 · 13 hrs · Edited Alex Gentry Alex Gentry Mickey has an absolute right to his opinion and can file whatever he wants too. I like mike. I don't think it was wise or cool to use a one hundred word summary to talk madness against Safer when that space should have used to make your appeal to the voter. I think that was kinda cold striking out against everyone at Safer like that but whatever. Like · Reply · 4 · 13 hrs Dave Harris Dave Harris I swear there's no greater divide between Stoners then legalization. Sad part is Arizona will not legalize any time soon because there always seems to be two groups fighting with each other. While I respect both these men this s*** is why Arizona marijuana industry is pathetic. Like · Reply · 2 · 6 hrs · Edited Dave Harris Dave Harris And the f*****-up thing is the two groups that are fighting each other they're two groups that want the same f****** thing it's not like Pro pot versus anti pot Like · Reply · 1 · 8 hrs Nick A Thomas Nick A Thomas So this is what I was reading about the other day... I was what the hell is going on now... With 2 initiative one for all drugs is that what I read if so that will not sit well with the conservatives in Arizona and will be confusing for the voters on election day.. I am sure the spin will be don't vote for either they are drug pushers; I know how they do this well they did it to me on a makeshift trail to convict me on growing 13 plant for veggie no flower... Yes we fight each other more that we support... Crap no protections for low income, homeless or people who dont want to buy chemically grown plants... so 2020 will be the next time patients might see relief??? I need to move if I want to smoke cannabis and not uses Pharmaceutical medication I will be 60 in 2020 Xuck!!! Like · Reply · 2 · 6 hrs Mickey Jones replied · 1 Reply David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Except it's an illusion. Mickey's is not fighting for anything. We're trying to get our initiative on the ballot. His is only a publicity stunt. He got his publicity now its over. Like · Reply · 1 · 6 hrs Hide 57 Replies 57 of 104 View previous replies Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Sounds like a lawyer ruined a great initiative Like · Reply · 37 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Can no one else read besides me? We had a board. We have discussions that last hours sometimes and we vote. There's no King here that's why he is upset he wanted to be the king of our initiative but we took input from the community and after discuss and realized that a provision attacking law enforcement and destroying the lives of police officers is a bad narrative and it's not necessary for cannabis legalization. Like · Reply · 34 mins · Edited Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Lol keeping police, and Lawyers in money. Like · Reply · 34 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Matt Caperton do you want Mickey Jones selling weed to your kid at school? Like · Reply · 33 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Sure Like · Reply · 33 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski If Mickey Jones was trying to sell weed to eight year olds at elementary schools do you think that should be legal? Like · Reply · 33 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Better than pills Like · Reply · 32 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Well then join his team. But the vast majority of people that I speak to don't want that kind of behavior legalize Like · Reply · 32 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski We already have medical marijuana for kids. I'm talking about Mickey Jones the homeless Drifter Selling weed and heroin to your kids Like · Reply · 32 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski The rad initiative would permit both Like · Reply · 31 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Do you think Arizona will vote yes on a law that allowed homeless Drifters to sell weed and heroin to children at schools? Like · Reply · 31 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Again that is a lie David. I have never said I think children should smoke marijuana. In fact the RAD position is that we don't support recreational drug use. That is up to the person. The RAD position is people should not be arrested for victimless d...See More Like · Reply · 30 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Yeah at least he understands there's more to legalization than what you like Like · Reply · 30 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I get y'all might be super libertarian but come on seriously guys? Like · Reply · 30 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton You are a sad person if all you can come up with is that someone is homeless Like · Reply · 29 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton I will post these comments on homeless advocacy groups to show your veracity Like · Reply · 28 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Then stop lashing out at us for disallowing adults to sell marijuana to minors and sales in school zones Like · Reply · 28 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Refile your initiative with a serious hundred word summary that's not going to make it look like a joke and I'll support it Like · Reply · 27 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Our initiative it is a hundred times better than arizonans for mindful regulation and you collected thousands of signatures for that. Are you really going to say screw everything just because you want adults to be able to sell weed to kids in school zones? Like · Reply · 27 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton But it's ok to degrade someone because they are homeless Like · Reply · 27 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I didn't degrade him. If you think being homeless is degrading that's on you. I'm just saying being homeless makes it a lot more difficult to be a leader in a political campaign. It's not practical I'm just being realistic Like · Reply · 26 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton What does that have anything to do with your or his initiative? Like · Reply · 25 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski What does what Like · Reply · 24 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Homelessness Like · Reply · 23 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton You would have never had to say a word if your initiative was as good as you claim. Like · Reply · 22 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Look. We're making history making the ballot as a Grassroots campaign. It takes an army of volunteers and thousands of dollars. You need to have some form of Competency to achieve a goal like this. Legalization is not going to come from a Drifter who b...See More Like · Reply · 20 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Matt Caperton please read it Like · Reply · 19 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Its at SaferArizona.com Home - Safer Arizona Cannabis Legalization Activist Webcasting Network saferarizona.com Like · Reply · 18 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton I have read it and that's why I would never sign it. If you had stuck to your original framework, you would have more supporters Like · Reply · 17 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski On the right hand side under tools. It says read the initiative Like · Reply · 16 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Instead of letting people like Downing make decisions Like · Reply · 16 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I'm not worried about his initiative really affecting hours I'm just upset that he wants to throw away all hopes of legalization because he wants us to allow adults to sell weed to kids at school. I can't believe that's what all this comes down to Like · Reply · 15 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Please show me where it says they will sell at schools, since that's your bullet point Like · Reply · 14 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I'm more disappointed in Mickey Jones than anything Like · Reply · 14 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Demitri Downing wanted 14,000 licenses in our initiative. We have a free market with unlimited licenses that you cannot be denied and only cost you about $50. Like · Reply · 14 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Ask for proof and get no answer Like · Reply · 13 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski In our initiative all you need is a transaction privilege tax license to start selling cannabis. Like · Reply · 11 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Still no answer......hmmmmm Like · Reply · 11 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Demitri Downing didn't make any decision. He made a couple suggestions that our board voted on and we did most of what he said Like · Reply · 11 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski You don't need a provision saying that it's allowed. That's not how laws work. At least not in every case for example if all we did is repeal prohibition without setting up any sort of restrictions that would allow anyone from the ages of birth to death to possess and sell and do whatever they want. But did you say they could do all that? No all you did is delete the law that restricts that activity. Like · Reply · 10 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Still no answe, did you read the above question I asked you? Like · Reply · 9 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski But there's no point in really talking about red because it's probably going to get 25 signatures throughout the year. Like · Reply · 9 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton See ignore that which you pulled out of thin air Like · Reply · 7 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Mickey Jones keeps saying that cops can arrest people for victimless marijuana crimes in our initiative and the only crimes we have are selling weed to kids under 18 if you are over 21 period you can get 30 days to six months in jail depending on how long the kid is. Like · Reply · 7 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton That's avoiding the question. Like · Reply · 5 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Can you answer? Like · Reply · 5 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I'm sure parents don't think that random dude selling weed to their elementary school kid is a victimless crime. You are at that point infringing on parenting rights. Like · Reply · 5 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski And you say it's better than pills but it's not legal for a random dude to sell your elementary school kid pills either. They need a prescription and hey we have a medical program that allows a prescription of marijuana for kids so kids can get marijuana if they need it for medical purpose Like · Reply · 3 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski - YOU complained about being arrested for marijuana when you were in high school. Like · Reply · 3 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Yeah cause no one is selling drugs at schools now Like · Reply · 3 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Hypocritical Like · Reply · 2 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I answered your question. The answer is it's not explicitly in there but it's allowed due to the deletion of the laws that prevent it. Do you understand? Like · Reply · 2 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski - You are changing the scope of the argument. The initiatives are about MARIJUANA. Nobody is asking Safer to legalize other drugs. Like · Reply · 2 mins Matt Caperton Matt Caperton Deflection is the true sign of weak debate skills Like · Reply · 1 min David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski And I gave you an example. If all we did is delete prohibition it would allow adults to sell marijuana to children in schools even though we didn't say it. It's allowed because we deleted the law that prevented it. Does that make sense to you? Like · Reply · 1 min David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski You didn't read it Matt Caperton Like · Reply · Just now Matt Caperton Matt Caperton What do you know about what I read Like · Reply · Just now Mickey Jones Write a reply... Michelle Mushee Westenfield Michelle Mushee Westenfield Mickey You can't steal from something you helped create. Remember you helped in the process of creating Safer Arizona's initiative. As well as myself and others. So when you say these things you're really saying them about yourself. And it's sad to see someone continuously do that to themselves. I'm also saddened by the fact that you don't want to see your creation thrive like some of us do, that you would rather continue to throw mud at this seedling rather than try to encourage it to grow, flower and fruit. It's the same type of attitude that made myself and others at Safer resend your seat on the board. We at Safer have not once said anything disparaging about your initiative in any way shape or form. And as a board member I would wish that you would give us the same respect. Like · Reply · 2 · 2 hrs · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Correct. I think most of us fundamentally agree with what used to be the purpose of the RAD initiative however now that it's marketed to sling mud at our initiative it only hurts both causes so I cannot support it anymore. Like · Reply · 2 hrs Mickey Jones Mickey Jones You have complained that I disrupt meetings. That is not true. Dave has PTSD and seems to get angry when people don't agree with him. And then starts yelling. That happened at the Tempe Library. Dave was yelling so loud at me that the Librarian came over and asked him to quite down because he was disturbing people. Like · Reply · Just now Mickey Jones Write a reply... Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski & Michelle Mushee Westenfield if you don't want to completely legalize marijuana then don't support the RAD initiative. Support the Safer Arizona initiative, which has criminal charges in it for a number of victimless marijua...See More Like · Reply · 2 · 1 hr Kc Palos Kc Palos Waaah criminal charges for a "number of victimless crimes" I counted 2 selling weed to children........get a life man Like · Reply · 28 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Hey, and I guess Tom Dean needs the money from new clients. Like · Reply · 17 mins Mickey Jones Write a reply... David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Mickey Jones you let everyone know last year that you never expect to make the ballot with your initiative but you file it just for the publicity. That's fine. And I can support the conceptual ideas of your initiative but because your hundred word summary attacks our initiative you change the purpose of your entire initiative and the only thing it does to serve now is talk shit about our campaign. Literally you have no purpose with your campaign other than to be rude to our campaign. That's not cool and that's why there's so many people in the community upset with you. People like your ideas but not the way you're going about them. Like · Reply · 1 · 1 hr · Edited David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Selling weed to children in school zones will tank the campaign Mickey Jones. Like · Reply · 1 · 1 hr Vann Gutier Vann Gutier Boom! Like · Reply · 1 hr Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Sounds like an option put in the Safer Arizona initiative to help Tom Dean get some new clients. Like · Reply · 23 mins Mickey Jones Write a reply... David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Look at this Mickey Jones good people like bong hit Bryan are turned off but your outrageous behavior. No automatic alt text available. Like · Reply · 1 hr David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I'm getting messages about your behavioral issues all over the internet. Image may contain: text Like · Reply · 1 hr David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski These are just people in the community that are watching and see how disruptive you've become to the movement and people avoid us for it. Like · Reply · 1 hr David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I've defended you as long as I could Mickey Jones. Despite all your lashing out I stood up for you for months and months but I can't do it anymore. Like · Reply · 1 hr Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Blame MICKEY for everything. Let's not talk about the details of the Safer Arizona initiative, which allows the government to arrest people for victimless marijuana crimes. Blame Mickey. It's not the poorly written Safer Arizona initiative it's MICKEY. Are you going to have the government blame MICKEY instead of the RUSSIANS now? Like · Reply · 1 · 21 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski Its a misdemeanor for selling weed to kids. You supported arizonans for mindful regulation which had felonies for possession Like · Reply · 16 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski You collected thousands of signatures for felonies for possession. Like · Reply · 16 mins David Stephen Wisniewski David Stephen Wisniewski I'm not blaming you for anything. We had a board and we voted. We have a collective mind here at safer Arizona. We vote on stuff. Like · Reply · 16 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones This isn't AZFRM this is RAD vs Safer Arizona. And when you compare the Safer Arizona initiative to RAD it sucks. The RAD initiative completely legalizes marijuana. The Safer Arizona initiative DOESN'T completely legalize marijuana. Like · Reply · 14 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski - With the exception of Alex and Patricia your board is a bunch of YES men who do whatever you tell them to do. And my guess is that Tom Dean is the guy who runs Safer Arizona. It seems like he tells you David, what to do and you do it. Like · Reply · 12 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones David Stephen Wisniewski - Actually David you seem like a mean bully that loves to insult and belittle people. I was going to quit a number of times because of your abusive behavior and name calling. But you kicked me out before I quit. I was also goin...See More Like · Reply · 8 mins Mickey Jones Write a reply... Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Again that is a lie David. I have never said I think children should smoke marijuana. In fact the RAD position is that we don't support recreational drug use. That is up to the person. The RAD position is people should not be arrested for victimless d...See More Like · Reply · 30 mins Mickey Jones Mickey Jones Dave, your are WRONG about the Safer Arizona initiative being the most permissive marijuana initiative in the country. The RAD initiative is. ...See More Initiative to re-legalize Marijuana in Arizona in 2018 C-??-2018 relegalize.100webspace.net Like · Reply · Remove Preview · 23 mins